Most US stocks are currently trading at over 20 times earnings. And when they're that expensive, it's impossible for investors to make any money in the long run, says Dr Steve Sjuggerud.
What are you getting for your money in stocks today? Sure, the market is way up and investors are excited. But what's the outlook over, say, five years?
To spare you the suspense, the outlook is not good.
Legendary investor Jeremy Grantham called the top in the markets in 2000 (like no one else). Then he backed up the truck and bought stocks at the very bottom in March 2009.
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Today, he is forecasting that the big U.S. stocks will return 0.4% a year over the next seven years. Assuming inflation of 2.5% per year, if Grantham is right, on an inflation-adjusted basis you will lose about 2% a year over the next seven years by investing in the stock market today.
I crunched the numbers differently and came to the same conclusion. Here's the simple way to see it:
Companies on the stock market are selling for over 22 times earnings today. Would you buy a business if it would take 22 years to get your money back?
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Well, that's the way it is in the stock market right now. If you were buying a company today, it would take you over 20 years to make your investment back through company earnings (if earnings stayed flat).
As you might guess, that's not a good deal. History backs up this thought. Since 1900, it's been a bad idea to buy stocks when they're trading at 20 times earnings or higher. Take a look at the chart below. You can see what I'm talking about throughout history. Stocks traded over 20 times earnings in 1929 and in the late 1960s and then in the mother of all stock market peaks in 2000.
We have nearly 110 years of history to go on here, from Yale professor Robert Shiller. And the historical record shows you don't make money buying stocks above 20 times earnings.
In fact, when you break the numbers down, you find this: the higher above 20 times earnings you go, the less money you make over the next five years. Take a look:
The chart shows what you can expect to make in stocks five years after the P/E ratio hits 20 or higher. Specifically, it's the median annualised returns five years later.
Now, this chart is extremely conservative. I adjusted for inflation and I ignored dividend income. But even if you don't do that, the returns look terrible.
I used a different method to arrive at my numbers than Jeremy Grantham did. But the results were the same You don't make money over the long run when you buy stocks as expensive as they are today.
While stocks are this expensive, trade carefully, with one eye on the exits. Think more about good defence than good offence. Good defence is doing things like tightening your trailing stops, selling positions that you know are overpriced, and shrinking the size of your bets.
At these lofty prices, the outlook for stocks in general isn't good. Invest accordingly.
This articlewas written by Dr. Steve Sjuggerud for the free daily investment letterDailyWealth
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